Andate sl sito della fox

visto che qua non si può postare senza traduzione..qualcuno vada sul sito della fox e traduca questa news...che mi sembra preoccupante o cmq ambigua!!!!
Non ho capito poi quella buona!!!!


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124401,00.html

antonella se metti il link e basta è forse ancora peggio

sforzati e traduci almeno il titolo
e se la senti preoccupante è perchè forse hai capito qualcosina

potevi postarlascrivendo quel poco che tu avevi capito

ora leggo e vedo

Police Confiscated Porn and Pills From Neverland

It's good news and bad news for Michael Jackson, according to my sources, when it comes to items taken from his bedroom by the Santa Barbara County District Attorney's office.

This week, Jackson's lawyers lobbied judge Rodney S. Melville to keep sealed those parts of the indictment that would reveal what had been taken from Jackson's Neverland ranch last November when police conducted their all-day raid.

Since then, it's seemed that the objects confiscated bore less of a consequence on any specific physical interaction Jackson might have had with his accuser, but showed questionable judgment on his part.

My source, who has seen documents related to the case, tells me that police found a "collection" of pornography in Jackson's large two-story bedroom. Among the items my source said were confiscated were magazines and DVDs of adult movies, including at least one that involved lesbian sex. That's the bad news.

The good news — and this is relative — is that the material, as far as can be determined so far, was of a heterosexual nature and did not involve children.

The magazines said to be found included the more conventional Playboy and Penthouse and more hard-core magazines such as Hustler and Cheri. How many issues of each magazine were confiscated is unknown, but according to my source, Jackson apparently kept them in a drawer next to his bedside.

What's troubling about this is that Jackson has boasted in the past about letting children sleep in his bed and, presumably, having access to the bedroom itself.

My source says that also taken by police during the raid were unspecified coins, framed and unframed pictures, and more seriously, prescription-pill bottles for controlled medications such as Oxycodone.

The big problem with the latter, I'm told, is that several of the vials' labels were made out not to Jackson but to employees whose name he used to secure unauthorized prescriptions.

As for the porno, the magazines and DVDs are said to have been purchased by Jackson's nephews and friends.

"It's not like Michael can go out and get this stuff himself," my source says. "He has to have others do it for him."

Nevertheless, my source says that the DVDs were kept in a locked briefcase in Jackson's bedroom.

The Santa Barbara grand jury that indicted Jackson might have actually felt that the accusing child's proximity and potential access to these materials constituted abuse or neglect, I am told.

Certainly, another big issue in Jackson's child-molestation case and indictment is alcohol. Way back on the day the Jackson story broke in November 2003, this column reported that there would be an accusation of pills and liquor given to the then-13-year-old boy.

Now a source says that the boy and his brother were found by a Jackson employee in the Neverland wine cellar.

"They were pouring Harbor Mist into cups," says my source, who says the inexpensive liqueur, which comes with twist-off caps, was used as a mixer.

I'm told that once this was discovered, the kids were lectured and cut off from entering the room again.

The wine cellar, I am told, is just down a few steps from the Neverland game room, and next to a jukebox. Even though it had a lock, my source claims that one of Jackson's cooks broke it, making the liquor easy to get at.

After the wine cellar was re-locked and the boys were cut off, they are said to have approached the Neverland chef for drinks. Wisely, he refused






in effetti onn son buone notizie
oddio, non pessime

dice che secondo le loro fonti avrebbero sequestrato materiale pornografico in caera id mj, nulla di illegale, cmq.
e nulla di omosessuale, ma solo a tematiche eterosessuali (e questo forse da qualche stupido punto di vista potrebbe essereun punto a suo favore)
il problema è che il materiale (sempre se esisteva davvero) non era irraggiungibile, non facileda reperire per un eventuale ospite della stanza, ma non impossibile

inoltre sembrerebbe che anche un cuoco confermerebbe che la madre e il bambino sono stati beccati in cantina a bere dalla riserva di mj

uffa xrò....si lo so che il link nemmeno va....ma visto cha la news sul forum non la vedevo ho chiesto aiuto...cmq mi pare di capire che sono state trovate nella sua stanza da letto di neverland dei dvd e giornalini porno?Mah....io sono molto scettica....

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Scritto da: mjfan80 02/07/2004 0.39
Police Confiscated Porn and Pills From Neverland

It's good news and bad news for Michael Jackson, according to my sources, when it comes to items taken from his bedroom by the Santa Barbara County District Attorney's office.

This week, Jackson's lawyers lobbied judge Rodney S. Melville to keep sealed those parts of the indictment that would reveal what had been taken from Jackson's Neverland ranch last November when police conducted their all-day raid.

Since then, it's seemed that the objects confiscated bore less of a consequence on any specific physical interaction Jackson might have had with his accuser, but showed questionable judgment on his part.

My source, who has seen documents related to the case, tells me that police found a "collection" of pornography in Jackson's large two-story bedroom. Among the items my source said were confiscated were magazines and DVDs of adult movies, including at least one that involved lesbian sex. That's the bad news.

The good news — and this is relative — is that the material, as far as can be determined so far, was of a heterosexual nature and did not involve children.

The magazines said to be found included the more conventional Playboy and Penthouse and more hard-core magazines such as Hustler and Cheri. How many issues of each magazine were confiscated is unknown, but according to my source, Jackson apparently kept them in a drawer next to his bedside.

What's troubling about this is that Jackson has boasted in the past about letting children sleep in his bed and, presumably, having access to the bedroom itself.

My source says that also taken by police during the raid were unspecified coins, framed and unframed pictures, and more seriously, prescription-pill bottles for controlled medications such as Oxycodone.

The big problem with the latter, I'm told, is that several of the vials' labels were made out not to Jackson but to employees whose name he used to secure unauthorized prescriptions.

As for the porno, the magazines and DVDs are said to have been purchased by Jackson's nephews and friends.

"It's not like Michael can go out and get this stuff himself," my source says. "He has to have others do it for him."

Nevertheless, my source says that the DVDs were kept in a locked briefcase in Jackson's bedroom.

The Santa Barbara grand jury that indicted Jackson might have actually felt that the accusing child's proximity and potential access to these materials constituted abuse or neglect, I am told.

Certainly, another big issue in Jackson's child-molestation case and indictment is alcohol. Way back on the day the Jackson story broke in November 2003, this column reported that there would be an accusation of pills and liquor given to the then-13-year-old boy.

Now a source says that the boy and his brother were found by a Jackson employee in the Neverland wine cellar.

"They were pouring Harbor Mist into cups," says my source, who says the inexpensive liqueur, which comes with twist-off caps, was used as a mixer.

I'm told that once this was discovered, the kids were lectured and cut off from entering the room again.

The wine cellar, I am told, is just down a few steps from the Neverland game room, and next to a jukebox. Even though it had a lock, my source claims that one of Jackson's cooks broke it, making the liquor easy to get at.

After the wine cellar was re-locked and the boys were cut off, they are said to have approached the Neverland chef for drinks. Wisely, he refused






in effetti onn son buone notizie
oddio, non pessime

dice che secondo le loro fonti avrebbero sequestrato materiale pornografico in caera id mj, nulla di illegale, cmq.
e nulla di omosessuale, ma solo a tematiche eterosessuali (e questo forse da qualche stupido punto di vista potrebbe essereun punto a suo favore)
il problema è che il materiale (sempre se esisteva davvero) non era irraggiungibile, non facileda reperire per un eventuale ospite della stanza, ma non impossibile

inoltre sembrerebbe che anche un cuoco confermerebbe che la madre e il bambino sono stati beccati in cantina a bere dalla riserva di mj

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Allora avevo più o meno capito.....insomma cmq il solito: pare,si dice,chissà..............ma ti pare che Michael vista anche la situazione lascia certe cose nella sua stanza?
certo cmq anche se visiona certe cose(anche se nn penso)...non ci trovo nulla di male....chi di noi non lo fa o fatto ihihihi

infatti
si deve arlare sempre al condizionale

ed è vero, in linea di principio niente di male se nelal sua stanza ci fossero dei giornalini e dvd porno "legali" (non quindi con minori o cse simili), ma dei dei giornalini normali, come playboy (menzionato)

il problema sarebbe che queste cose erano in camera sua, non inaccessibili ad eventuali visitatori (tranne il dvd che semprebrebbe essere stato sotto chiave, quindi non raggiungibile)

se venisse confermata questa cosa probabilmente legalmente andrebbe dalla parte di mj, delle riviste etero potrebbero intaccare le accuse di pedofilia e pederastia, non avendo trovato alcunchè di "illegale", ma potrebbe far nascere la nuova accusa di "non curanza" verso i minori

beh, non c'è da preoccuparsi molto allora

Credo che alla fine non sia una cattiva notizia,ma nelle mani sbagliate potrebbe diventarlo...ogni riferimento è puramente casuale...Tom Sneddon!!!![SM=x47926] [SM=x47926] :sparo: :sparo:

[Modificato da Lara180702 02/07/2004 12.23]

speriamo bene!![SM=x47951]

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Scritto da: masaricca 02/07/2004 14.06

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le riviste etero? ma dai...
magari ce le ha messe proprio MJ... apposta... e si intuisce anche facilmente il motivo...
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[Modificato da VertigoMJ 02/07/2004 19.23]

nn ci vedo tutta 'sta cosa... anzi...

E_la_bottiglietta_di_pillole_di_cui_si_parla?"Oxycodone"...di_cosa_si_tratta?Mi_sembra_di_capire_che_sia_qualcosa_prescritta_dal_medico...

Mah...sempre csì...
Può essere positivo o negativo a seconda del punto d vista...

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Tutto sommato mi sembrano buone notizie([SM=x47956] ): speriamo almeno che siano attendibili!

Poi, riguardo al "questionable judgment on Michael's part" hanno ragione, ma si sapeva già... e comunque non implica reato ()!


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Ma dai,ke c'è di strano...
Quale uomo nn li ha mai usati?

Anche qui commentano la notizia come positiva per la difesa :

July 1, 2004 - NY Daily News

The SUN - July 4, 2004

[Modificato da GracyR 04/07/2004 23.25]