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intanto in tv ho sentito che lunedi 4 aprile ci saranno i testimoni del 93.....
cmq qui trovate tutte le foto dell udienza di oggi:

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[Modificato da Checco Jackson 87 01/04/2005 18.37]

Jacko: Ex-Maid Says Jacko Must Be Stopped

Michael Jackson had better prepare himself this weekend for what's coming on Monday morning.

He'd better prepare his parents, too, and other loved ones who might be accompanying him to court. They're about to hear stories from the early '90s that will put the curl back in Jackson's fluffy, straightened, blown-out hair.

Ready for her appearance is Jackson's former personal maid, Adrian McManus, who worked for him from 1990 to 1994.

In 1995, McManus was one of five former employees who unsuccessfully sued Jackson for wrongful termination and sexual harassment.

Their case hinged on them being able to tell of incidents they witnessed of sexual molestation and inappropriate behavior by Jackson at Neverland. But when the judge in their case ruled that they couldn't tell those stories -- already captured in thousands of pages of depositions -- the case fell apart.


Not only did they lose, but four of the five were forced into personal bankruptcy. They sold some of their stories to tabloids for small amounts to pay debts. Some of them went back to living in Jackson's community, disgraced but feeling they knew the truth about him.

So get ready. Sources say that McManus, who comes across as hard-working, pleasant and sincere, has been waiting patiently for a decade to tell what she saw at the ranch. She is a long-time member of the local community, with a family and roots.

McManus is the only member of her group who didn't file for bankruptcy. But she's hardly bathing in cash from selling her story. Whatever remuneration she picked up in 1995 from tabloids was used for fighting Jackson, who then had a fortune at his disposal.

Since she was fired by Jackson, McManus -- who's in her early 40s -- has worked on and off for a local discount store. She's on her feet for eight hours every day with a lunch break. She doesn't have the money or time for plastic surgery or madcap shopping jaunts. The Nation of Islam doesn't provide her with security. According to sources, she's so worried about recriminations from her testimony that she's pulled her college-age son out of school temporarily to watch her house during the day while she continues to work. She must have a paycheck.

Sources say her family is frightened for her. Santa Maria is a small town. They are not looking forward to the bright light of celebrity when she testifies. But McManus, sources tell me, has been suffering from anxiety attacks and sleeplessness for a long time. She feels that when she finally tells a jury what she saw, a friend says, "She will have peace."

And what did she see? Enough to make Jackson and his family squirm when she testifies, she says. Among her recollections will be the comings and goings of certain young teenage boys she saw in Jackson's bedroom. For four years she was the only Neverland employee with a key to that bedroom. Jackson's security guards at the time were keenly aware of that, too. After the Chandler case broke in 1993, they started harassing her. She will say, as she did in her deposition, that they chased her with stun guns and made her life miserable. She will name names, times and places.


She will say that in her opinion, Jackson is a dangerous pedophile who must be stopped from ruining more lives.

The Jackson defense hopes that McManus will be rattled under cross-examination, that she will seem either crazy or vengeful or greedy or all three. But I think they are underestimating her.

McManus, unlike Jackson, is a peer of the jurors. The other day Judge Rodney Melville (search) characterized many of the witnesses so far as "lawyers and comedians." McManus is neither. Once the jury hears a little about her personal life, her work, her history, they will see that she is one of them. If she weren't in the case, she would have been part of the jury pool.

McManus is not the only one of the five people who sued Jackson who will testify in the coming week. Tentatively scheduled to appear very shortly is former security guard Ralph Chacon. He and two other security guards, Kaseem Abdool and Charli Michaels, also gave lengthy depositions in the 1995 case detailing first-person accounts of Jackson's allegedly inappropriate behavior with 13-year-old boys.

Defense attorneys will be barking objections to keep out Chacon's and Michaels' specifically disturbing recollections; Abdool is so far not scheduled.

The big question, though, is whether the prosecution is up to the presentation of these witnesses. As in 1995, they will probably be questioned for Jackson by the eminently prepared Robert Sanger. He was the one who took them through the depositions and knows their stories backward and forward. Assistant District Attorney Ron Zonen -- the star of the prosecution team -- will have his work cut out for him.

In fact, I'm told that so far, these key witnesses have had little preparation. The prosecution has been made so paranoid by Tom Mesereau's standard line of questioning -- "Have you had meetings with the district attorney before today? Did you discuss your testimony?" -- that they may be neglecting some important elements that would support these witnesses' appearances.

My advice: get them haircuts and new suits. Call in "Extreme Makeover." And for heaven's sake, don't permit a rerun of what happened with flight attendant Cynthia Ann Bell. She turned out to be the defense's best witness so far -- and she was offered by the prosecution.

Tale McManus è una brava donna sull quarantina, che lavora sodo. Avrà facile presa sulla giuria. Non riesce a dormire però la notte, perchè deve dire ciò che succede a casa Jackson! Dice di aver visto cose oscene a Neverland nel periodo in cui lavorava 1990-1994 e che Mixhael deve essere fermato perchè è un pericoloso pedofilo. Questo farà male a MJ e famiglia!
Meglio che Jacko si prepari!


PS: questa è una d quei 5 ex dipendenti che dovevano $1,5 milioni per diffamazione, l'unica che on ha dichiarato la bancarotta.


Si mette male...speriamo che Meserau riesca a demolirla, ma Friedman ha dei seri dubbi su ciò...

una sintesi in italiano?

La traduzione più sintetika che riesco a trovare è: O porca miseria ladra, ma questa sembra uscita da un episodio dell'ispettore Rex.

ma davvero credete possa essere credibile questa qua?Allora perchè nn hanno parlato prima....proprio ora che sono uscite ste accuse?

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Scritto da: mj1983 01/04/2005 20.51
una sintesi in italiano?

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Quella che ho scritto sotto! spero basti...

New York, 1 aprile 2005 - Dopo un giorno di pausa, la quinta settimana del processo a carico di Michael Jackson si concluderà oggi con la testimonianza dell'investigatore che nel 1993 perquisì il ranch Neverland, dove l'allora tredicenne Gavin Arvizo sostiene di essere stato molestato dalla pop-star.

L'udienza riprende dopo la pausa di ieri dovuta a una festività californiana e l'accusa chiamerà a testimoniare anche l'avvocato della famiglia di Arvizo, Larry Feldman. Feldman seguì anche il caso di un altro minorenne che nel 1993 accusò la star di molestie per poi patteggiare un risarcimento multimilionario. In seguito, il ragazzo si rifiutò di collaborare alle indagini contro Jackson, ma sarà chiamato a testimoniare in questo processo.

Durante la giornata di mercoledì era stato sentito un altro legale della famiglia Arvizo, Bill Dickerman. L'avvocato aveva raccontato come fosse entrato in contatto con la madre dell'accusatore della pop-star grazie a Jamie Masada, la stessa persona che presentò Jackson a Gavin. Durante la sua deposizione Dickerman ha inoltre detto di aver contattato lui stesso l'avvocato Feldman, proprio perchè aveva già seguito un caso contro Jackson.

Feldman si sarebbe quindi rivolto allo psicologo Stanley Katz - sentito anch'egli mercoledì - per intervistare il ragazzo che diceva di essere stato molestato. Durante il contro interrogatorio, lo psicologo Katz ha ammesso che, stando alle sue informazioni, la famiglia avrebbe contattato prima gli avvocati e solo in un secondo momento avrebbe presentato denuncia alla polizia.

fonte: resto del carlino

scusatemi, ma cme mai questa esce dopo 15 anni?

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Scritto da: Aryn 01/04/2005 22.54
scusatemi, ma cme mai questa esce dopo 15 anni?

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McManus is the only member of her group who didn't file for bankruptcy. But she's hardly bathing in cash from selling her story. Whatever remuneration she picked up in 1995 from tabloids was used for fighting Jackson, who then had a fortune at his disposal.


C'è sempre stata, è una di quei 5 che doveva dei soldi a Mike per diffamazione. Esce solo ora dopo tutti questi anni? affari suoi, lei dice di essersi sempre sentita male nel non poter dire la verità.
Ma ho sbagliato nello scrivere aveva iù di 40 anni quando è stata assunta da MJ.
La difesa la vuole dipingere come una pazza.

c'è ki si sveglia ricordandosi improvvisamente che MJ l'ha toccato dopo 20 anni figuriamoci una che gli DEVE DEI SOLDI! non mi stupisco di questi testimoni campati in aria, ho solo paura che la giuria ci creda, la vecchietta fa tanto "come sono sincera e indifesa" esattamente come un bambino malato di cancro sul banco dei testimoni.

SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- An attorney representing the family of the teenage boy at the center of Michael Jackson's child molestation trial testified Friday the family never asked him to file a lawsuit against the pop star.

The testimony by Larry Feldman seemed to support Jackson defense attorneys who contend that the boy's family sought money from the pop star.

Also Friday, an investigator testified that linens seized by police from Jackson's bed failed to yield hair, fibers or DNA linked to the teenager accusing him of child molestation or the accuser's brother.

In Friday testimony, attorney Feldman said the family of the accuser first approached him to investigate allegations and possible legal action against media companies, including ABC, for showing the faces of the minor and his brother without consent in a 2003 documentary.

Later, after the investigation had shifted, Feldman brought in Dr. Stan Katz. A psychologist, Katz helped launch the string of events leading to Jackson's indictment when he reported to police that Jackson's accuser, during a therapy session, said he had been molested by the pop star while staying with him at Neverland Ranch.

When Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon began investigating the allegations, Feldman said, he told the prosecutor he would not file a suit.

During a tense cross-examination of Feldman, defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr. established that the boy, now 15, and his brother have until the age of 20 to sue for damages in the case. Additionally, Mesereau established, if Jackson is convicted in criminal court, a conviction in a civil suit -- which could bring a damage award -- is virtually assured.

The connection between Katz, Feldman and Jackson is not new. In 1993, Feldman represented the family of another 13-year-old boy who spent time with Jackson. Feldman referred that boy to Katz, who contacted authorities after the boy said he had been molested.

The 1993 case ended after Jackson, without admitting guilt, agreed to pay the boy and his family a multimillion-dollar settlement. The boy stopped cooperating with authorities, ending a criminal probe into the charges.

Jackson's trial judge has ruled that evidence from the 1993 case can be brought up in Jackson's current trial, raising the possibility of Katz pulling double duty as a witness about both alleged episodes.

But the defense also is expected to point to the common cast of characters to bolster its contention that the latest charges were made up to extract another financial bonanza -- and that the involvement of many of the same people could account for common details in cases a decade apart.

Under cross-examination by Mesereau, Feldman repeatedly denied attending a meeting at which defense attorneys say he told CNN's Larry King that the accuser's mother was making up the molestation allegations.

While he was on the stand, tempers appeared to be running short in the courtroom. Feldman seemed testy with both Sneddon and Mesereau, and Santa Barbara Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville, while considering an objection, told Sneddon, "Don't give me that look."


Feldmann ha sostunuto la tesi che la famiglia inizialmente non voleva iniziare un procedimento contro MJ. Ma chiedeva se si potevano denunciare L'ABC per aver mostrato Gavin ancora minorenne, ecc...
Feldman inoltre ha rierito ciò a Katz e di conseguenza e Sneddon...
Nel controinterrogatorio è saltto fuori che un procedimento civile, cioè che Mike dovrà pagare, è al quanto sicuro in caso MJ venga considerato colpevole.
La difesa ha seri dubbi sul fatto che ci sia l'identico cast del '93, e che questo rende per forza i particolari delle 2 vicende simili.

Ma la bella notizia viene dallo sheriffo, che ha testimoniato che non è mai stata ritrovata nella camera da letto alcuna tracia di DNA, capelli o altro appartenenti a Gavin.

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si era già saputo che non vi era traccia di DNA di Gavin nella stanza di Michael

beh prepariamoci penso che D.S abbia molte di questa carte da giocare ancora!!!!da qui alla fine compariranno molte altre persone con fantomatiche ricostruzioni o ricordi....quanta merda ancora dovremme sentire!preparatevi ragazzi...preparatevi..il processo è appena iniziato e non è affatto concluso

D'altronde Sneddon l'aveva detto: "Abbiamo altre persone che si stanno facendo avanti".

per i testimoni che stanno cicciando come funghi, sono gran parte pagati profumatamente, non ci credo che dopo quasi due anni ricciano ex dipendenti, o altre persone che hanno lavorato con MIchael, e ora vanno a testimoniare! sono tutti d'accordo, non l'avete ancora capito, e' una storia troppo assurda! stanno o vogliono mettere MIchael in cattiva luce a tutti costi, ma noi fans combatteremo per questo, troppe rogne a questo processo! andassero tutti a case a raccontare barzellette con i loro amici, se non c'hanno niente da fare!